WarrenI really think if you want to be a good evaluator of businesses, an investor, you really ought to figure out a way without too much personal damage to run a lousy business for a while. I think you learn a whole lot more about business by actually struggling with a terrible business for a couple of years than you learn by getting into a very good one where the business itself is so good that you can't mess it up. I don't know whether Charlie has a view on that or not, but it certainly was a big part of our learning experience. And I think a bigger part in the sense than running, being involved with good business was actually being involved in some. bad businesses and just seeing how awful it was and how awful it is and how little you can do about it and how IQ does not solve the problem and a whole bunch of things i it's it's a useful experience but i wouldn't advise too much of it well you think so charlie
Charliehere yeah it was very useful to us there's nothing like personal painful experience if you want to learn and we certainly had our share of it